A growing network of online communities known collectively as the “manosphere” is emerging as a serious threat to gender equality, as toxic digital spaces increasingly influence real-world attitudes, behaviours, and policies, the UN agency dedicated to ending gender discrimination has warned.

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    2 days ago

    Let me guess, the men will have their internet traffic monitored & have curfews ??

    Oh & be put on a watchlist for merely talking in a raised voice against women.

    Because I kid you not, these are real suggestions

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      Lol, by who?

      Who would even be able to enforce this… The politicians who are mostly men, the CEO who own silicon valley…mostly men. The police who would enforce the law…oh also men.

      You guys are just scared of your own shadows… Some real soft shit going on in this thread.

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            Can I ask a question ? Why do you assume that feminists were ever pro-left ?? Seriously

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              That has nothing to do with my remark. The far-right is anti-feminist.

              As to you question, there are many different strands of feminism and Marxist feminism, anarcha-feminism, intersectional feminism, queer feminism etc. are very much pro-left.

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                Sure Finland’s female-led coalition party is not feminists according to YOU<br> https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-55020994

                So pro-left they are & yet so pro-war, TERFs are a thing too & guess what ? The feminists do not oppose the draft. (Finland has a male-only draft & wants to join NATO which totally a defensive alliance)

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                  “2Sure Finland’s female-led coalition party is not feminists according to YOU<br> https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-55020994

                  If you see feminism as every time there are women in government, why do you oppose feminism?

                  “So pro-left they are & yet so pro-war”

                  They’re a right-wing austerity government but I’ll bite, which war are you talking about?

                  “TERFs are a thing too”

                  Sure, I never said all feminists are left-wing. There are reactionary strands of feminism (if we accept that they are indeed feminists) such TERFs for example. My point is that feminism is not a monolith and the bulk of it is left-wing.

                  “The feminists do not oppose the draft.”

                  Correction: A country right next to an expansionist dictatorship does not oppose the draft. I’ll probably get shouted at buy when you are right next to a country like Russia, the draft is a necessary evil.

                  “(Finland has a male-only draft & wants to join NATO which totally a defensive alliance)”

                  Perhaps the draft should be extended to women. In any case, irrelevant to your “point” about feminism.

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          Men huh, Finland is a feminist govt that has a male-only draft.

          Men still make up the majority of the parliament in Finland, though that particular country has a long history of promoting equity.

          Oh & EU is feminist led

          You mean that the EU has leaders who are feminist… Men still hold the majority of the seats.

          Feminists & women are pandered to by those men. Those men are kinda like you.

          Oh no… People who believe in equality…the tragedy.

          Of course some like you is going to victim blame men

          How exactly are you being victimized while I am not… and we’re both men?

          Another example is the white feather movement

          Lol, that was a nationalistic movement to get people to go to war. I don’t really think women were really in control of the war effort during WW2.

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            You don’t believe in equality, PERIOD. Because people like you oppose women being drafted. You also deny systemic misandry like the alimony laws & even support policies like abolishing prisons for women & reduced sentencing for women & only women.

            There are multiple documented evidences of feminists shaming men into getting drafted while they get to be safe & secure & one of their excuses was “We have a crisis in masculinity” & Finland has a women-majority govt, of course the diversity part is a lie.

            EU is led by feminists & BTW, pandering to women is also feminism, there are literally reserved seats for women & a male-only draft. These are all Equity to you huh

            I like how you’re putting in so much effort into pushing the narrative that it’s men who do it, when the biggest warmongers just so happen to be women & there’s not a single word of opposition to the draft by feminists.

            Like the White-feather movement being nationalistic, yet it was still women who shamed men into fighting the war (women didn’t want to go to war & even today women as a whole are opposed to conscription for women)

            Reminder women in the military are placed in either guard duty or administration.

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              You don’t believe in equality, PERIOD. Because people like you oppose women being drafted.

              Wrong fuck face, I don’t believe in the draft for men or women.

              You also deny systemic misandry like the alimony laws & even support policies like abolishing prisons for women & reduced sentencing for women & only women.

              The majority of law makers are men, the majority of judges are men, the majority of law enforcement officers are men… How is men making rules that you perceive to negatively affect men = misandry?

              There are multiple documented evidences of feminists shaming men into getting drafted while they get to be safe & secure & one of their excuses was “We have a crisis in masculinity

              Lol, you really think the white feathers was a feminist movement?

              Finland has a women-majority govt](https://www.forbes.com/sites/carmenniethammer/2019/12/12/finlands-new-government-is-young-and-led-by-women-heres-what-the-country-does-to-promote-diversity/), of course the diversity part is a lie.

              “Moreover, almost half (47%) of the country’s” having a woman as the leader doesn’t mean they have the majority. You’re either lying or you can’t fucking read.

              I like that you posted an article praising the quality of living and equity in a country and think it helps your argument.

              EU is led by feminists & BTW, pandering to women is also feminism, there are literally reserved seats for women & a male-only draft. These are all Equity to you huh

              Lol, I don’t think you know what equity, feminism, or majority means.

              like how you’re putting in so much effort into pushing the narrative that it’s men who do it, when the biggest warmongers just so happen to be women & there’s not a single word of opposition to the draft by feminists.

              Lol, name a time in modern history where a woman was the leader of a nation who started a war…

              Like the White-feather movement being nationalistic, yet it was still women who shamed men into fighting the war (women didn’t want to go to war & even today women as a whole are opposed to conscription for women)

              And you think I like the white feathers? Being a feminist doesn’t mean you support every decision of every woman… That’s just insane. That would be like me blaming every man, for WW2 because Hitler was a dude.

              Reminder women in the military are placed in either guard duty or administration.

              Lol, that’s not even true… Women have been allowed to be in combat roles since 2013.

              And guess what, it’s not the women who say they shouldn’t be

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        Yup, in the UK women MPs were talking about bringing in curfews for MEN

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            These are lawmakers who have the power to change your lives & your instinct is treat any issue that may affect men’s lives in a negative way as a joke.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBQybc2l-gU

            E.g: Trump is sending foreign men to El Salvador to a torture camp. Yeah, it’s only funny when it happens to othet men, when your govt does this to YOU, you will be singing a different tune.

            I think I’ll speak up for men here, You need a Men-Only Lemmy/Mbin/PieFed instance. So that you can at least speak up about your issues without being laughed at or downplayed by misandrists

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              What you are saying doesn’t quite tally with reality. Your argument style seems to be to take things which have some element of truth to them and then take them entirely out of context inferring some kind of semi-paranoid hatred in others where it may not exist.

              I could imagine that some people might say you have extreme views.

              I am a man who believes that more needs to be done for men, but I think your jingoism does a disservice to the true problems many men face. It is so paper thin, overly simplistic and easy to see through that I believe you are only riling up hatred and will not possibly solve any real mens problems with your current approach.

              Honestly, your arguments are a parody of real issues. Stop.