Same could be said about other distros, btw ;)

  • Shareni@programming.dev
    1·
    29 days ago

    Let’s ignore all the anti-consumer bs (like selling user data to Amazon) and just focus on snaps.

    • each snap installed slows down your boot time
    • snaps get installed even when you don’t expect them to (apt get install firefox for example)
    • snap store is closed source
    • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
      0·
      29 days ago

      each snap installed slows down your boot time

      How so? How much impact are we talking? First I’ve heard of this

      • Shareni@programming.dev
        0·
        29 days ago

        It needs to mount virtual directories for each snap. If I remember correctly it does a part of the job on boot and part on login.

        • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
          0·
          29 days ago

          Not really noticed it tbh:

          1.951s snapd.seeded.service

          1.673s snapd.service

          Seems to be a lot longer than the mounts themselves but even then pretty minimal impact:

          $ systemd-analyze blame | grep snap | grep mount
   86ms snap-bare-5.mount
   85ms snap-blanket-49.mount
   84ms snap-btop-813.mount
   83ms snap-btop-814.mount
   82ms snap-chromium-3010.mount
   82ms snap-chromium-3025.mount
   80ms snap-core18-2829.mount
   79ms snap-core18-2846.mount
   78ms snap-core20-2379.mount
   77ms snap-core20-2434.mount
   76ms snap-core22-1663.mount
   76ms snap-core22-1722.mount
   75ms snap-core24-609.mount
   74ms snap-core24-716.mount
   73ms snap-cups-1067.mount
   72ms snap-firefox-5600.mount
   71ms snap-firefox-5647.mount
   70ms snap-firmware\x2dupdater-127.mount
   69ms snap-firmware\x2dupdater-147.mount
   68ms snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d28\x2d1804-198.mount
   67ms snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d38\x2d2004-140.mount
   66ms snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d38\x2d2004-143.mount
   65ms snap-gnome\x2d42\x2d2204-172.mount
   64ms snap-gnome\x2d42\x2d2204-176.mount
   63ms snap-gnome\x2d46\x2d2404-66.mount
   62ms snap-gnome\x2d46\x2d2404-77.mount
   61ms snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1534.mount
   60ms snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1535.mount
   59ms snap-libreoffice-330.mount
   58ms snap-libreoffice-334.mount
   57ms snap-mesa\x2d2404-143.mount
   56ms snap-mesa\x2d2404-44.mount
   55ms snap-nvtop-171.mount
   54ms snap-pinta-33.mount
   53ms snap-pinta-37.mount
   52ms snap-snap\x2dstore-1244.mount
   51ms snap-snap\x2dstore-1248.mount
   50ms snap-snapd-23258.mount
   49ms snap-snapd-23545.mount
   48ms snap-snapd\x2ddesktop\x2dintegration-247.mount
   47ms snap-snapd\x2ddesktop\x2dintegration-253.mount
   46ms snap-surfshark-51.mount
   44ms snap-telegram\x2ddesktop-6489.mount
   43ms snap-transmission-100.mount
   42ms snap-youtube\x2ddl-4630.mount
   41ms snap-youtube\x2ddl-4806.mount
   40ms var-snap-firefox-common-host\x2dhunspell.mount
   24ms snap-telegram\x2ddesktop-6495.mount
            • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
              0·
              29 days ago

              Using mistral to calculate this but looks close enough

              1921 + 1673 + 242 + 85 + 84 + 84 + 83 + 82 + 81 + 80 + 79 + 77 + 77 + 75 + 74 + 73 + 72 + 71 + 70 + 69 + 68 + 68 + 67 + 66 + 65 + 64 + 63 + 62 + 61 + 60 + 59 + 58 + 57 + 56 + 55 + 54 + 53 + 52 + 52 + 51 + 50 + 48 + 48 + 47 + 46 + 45 + 44 + 43 + 41 + 21 + 18 = 7264ms

              So, the total sum of all the time values is 7264 milliseconds, or 7.264 seconds

              Removing the snapd services: 7264ms - 3836ms = 3428ms