• Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org
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    23 hours ago

    Speaking as someone who dabbles with all kinds of art.

    What are you talking about? I can’t even begin to make the art i make digitally on paper and i am using a drawing tablet. I heavily use blended layers and may zoom in to the pixel level to meticulously get something perfect.

    My used to be art teacher (pencil drawing, digital drawing and tattoos) started lesson 1 with affirming that digital painting is not drawing and you can not use a drawing tablet to draw. They affirmed its its own thing and much closer to painting.

    You could raise one point for eye hand coordination holding a pen like item to draw lines there are transferable skills there but for all my digital work, my paper drawings suck, and i don’t even want to think about that guy i know that was actually good on paper, but disliked using a drawing tablet so much he used a mouse to “scratch” drawings on pc instead.

    If we are considering experience broader creative techniques there is also the very common (and very fun) art of making collages.

    People used to do this with magazines and you needed to be good with scissors. Doing it online eliminated that skill yet public internet images and photoshop actually turned that hobby in an actual career. (I know many magazines where every cover is a photoshopped collage of pictures)

    I like to to point this one because in my Own dabbling with ai generated (diy comfyui -not an llm prompt) the creative energy i put in feels much close to making collages, and a little bit like coding. You start with something basic and then you gradually change and mold stuff into intention.

    My actual critique of ai generation is actually something much more basic… its just not as fun, its carving a rock that can change shape and sometimes it just sucks.

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      22 hours ago

      i meant the knowledge of line weight, colour theory, perspective, shapes, how light works, where shadows fall, how to treat your values, and the million other things that you can take to paper, that i have taken to paper as a ditigal artist

      drawing ditigally is one way of drawing sure, but the skills you get as you draw are 90% transferable to any other medium - you just need to learn the new tool first

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        16 hours ago

        I feel like your being incredibly specific about how it applies to one art form.

        Ai generation is not drawing. Just like drawing is not woodcarving.

        Id like so see pencil or brush skills transfer to photography. Which is a good example because i have taken photos with intentional effect to make them look paintings.

        Someone who works abstract without light play does not need to know light theory to be an artist.

        If you want to do make the same art on a different medium sure knowledge is transfered but that really depends on what you are trying to do which is different for every creative individual.

        In my experience there is knowledge overlap between making photoshop collages and building advanced ai generation flows.

        These tools also complement eachother. Generate a specific something, photoshop it into the final product.

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          15 hours ago

          overlap between drawing and photography? easy, composition, colour theory, framing, in fact you could take everything (aside from gear knowledge) from photography and apply it to drawing or painting

          pretty much all mediums of art have the same basic core - concepts that can come in handy no matter what other medium you grab, shapes, colours, compositions - you learn those by working with any medium, and you can take them everywhere else