Oh this is about laptops not being able to enter hibernation and thus draining the battery during standby.
At my job for whatever reason our laptops refuse to sleep or hibernate, I always assumed it was a braindead choice by IT but maybe it’s a driver issue.
I always assumed it was a braindead choice by IT but maybe it’s a driver issue.
It’s likely both. Part of the problem is Windows’ “fast boot” setting. When enabled, the “shut down” button actually puts the computer into hibernate mode. Only restarting properly power cycles the system. In many companies, the option is enabled by default and IT departments lock employees out of changing it.
Another part of the problem is that the option is needed at all. If the OS wasn’t completely bloated it would boot up quickly anyways
Hibernate is effectively power-off as in same battery drain as true off. IIRC, it puts a flag in bios (or the bootloader?) to go straight into hibernation recovery where it loads the on disk copy of ram back into ram. Basically skipping all the initialization and first time loading stuff.
Fast boot is some janky “we’ll just hibernate the core services and everything else is off” junk that just causes more problems. I felt a difference back in Win10+HDD but I don’t anymore with SSDs. They really should get rid of it as it always causes unnecessary troubleshooting mysteries or at least turn it on conditionally.
As IT, I don’t enable hibernate because its not as fast as sleep. I don’t want to deal with the users who complain about the startup speed. (I’ll have to investigate again as the modern laptops might be fast enough that it’s ok again) I do however allow sleep but it’s also so crap that I now get “the laptop is asleep but when i came back the battery is dead!” ugh. win some lose some i guess.
A bog standard windows 11 gets you from cold boot into user land pretty quick. The problem comes when you’ve got thirty or more badly optimized applications running at startup.
The fuck it does. Maybe compared to my old Windows 7 install on a spinning rust platter, but Windows 11 is a slog compared to Mint in my experience. I can reboot my desktop and reload my apps so fast on Linux that Discord won’t notice that my connection dropped.
The problem comes when you’ve got thirty or more badly optimized applications running at startup.
I only have Outlook and Teams starting up automatically on my work computer, and it still takes 10-15 minutes to get fully up and running from fast boot’s “shut down”. This is on an engineering workstation.
Windows 11 (and Microslop programs in general) are just unoptimized pieces of crap
It was more likely by Security than IT. Had the same issue at my last job. It was so their corpo data harvesting could be running 24/7. It could be this bug, but also could very well be intentional to keep telemetry flowing. It’s disgusting, but it is fairly common these days.
Sometimes I notice my work laptop’s fan going when it is supposedly sleeping. So I’ve started unplugging its power to make it choose between keeping battery or doing whatever bullshit it is up to. Also helps with the coil whine it sometimes has from charging.
Oh this is about laptops not being able to enter hibernation and thus draining the battery during standby.
At my job for whatever reason our laptops refuse to sleep or hibernate, I always assumed it was a braindead choice by IT but maybe it’s a driver issue.
Gotta love it when you get out your laptop for a meeting and the bag is hot on the inside…
It’s likely both. Part of the problem is Windows’ “fast boot” setting. When enabled, the “shut down” button actually puts the computer into hibernate mode. Only restarting properly power cycles the system. In many companies, the option is enabled by default and IT departments lock employees out of changing it.
Another part of the problem is that the option is needed at all. If the OS wasn’t completely bloated it would boot up quickly anyways
Hibernate is effectively power-off as in same battery drain as true off. IIRC, it puts a flag in bios (or the bootloader?) to go straight into hibernation recovery where it loads the on disk copy of ram back into ram. Basically skipping all the initialization and first time loading stuff.
Fast boot is some janky “we’ll just hibernate the core services and everything else is off” junk that just causes more problems. I felt a difference back in Win10+HDD but I don’t anymore with SSDs. They really should get rid of it as it always causes unnecessary troubleshooting mysteries or at least turn it on conditionally.
As IT, I don’t enable hibernate because its not as fast as sleep. I don’t want to deal with the users who complain about the startup speed. (I’ll have to investigate again as the modern laptops might be fast enough that it’s ok again) I do however allow sleep but it’s also so crap that I now get “the laptop is asleep but when i came back the battery is dead!” ugh. win some lose some i guess.
A bog standard windows 11 gets you from cold boot into user land pretty quick. The problem comes when you’ve got thirty or more badly optimized applications running at startup.
The fuck it does. Maybe compared to my old Windows 7 install on a spinning rust platter, but Windows 11 is a slog compared to Mint in my experience. I can reboot my desktop and reload my apps so fast on Linux that Discord won’t notice that my connection dropped.
I only have Outlook and Teams starting up automatically on my work computer, and it still takes 10-15 minutes to get fully up and running from fast boot’s “shut down”. This is on an engineering workstation.
Windows 11 (and Microslop programs in general) are just unoptimized pieces of crap
No one should be pressing the power button and thinking it is shutting down the computer. That’s user error.
Cant believe those idiots thought the power button would control power to the device. What idiots.
It does, but it doesn’t shut down by default and hasn’t for a loooooong time. Ever, probably. Even my old 186 you had to hold it down to shut it down.
“You’re holding it wrong”
Power doesn’t mean “shut down”. Never has.
It was more likely by Security than IT. Had the same issue at my last job. It was so their corpo data harvesting could be running 24/7. It could be this bug, but also could very well be intentional to keep telemetry flowing. It’s disgusting, but it is fairly common these days.
Sometimes I notice my work laptop’s fan going when it is supposedly sleeping. So I’ve started unplugging its power to make it choose between keeping battery or doing whatever bullshit it is up to. Also helps with the coil whine it sometimes has from charging.