I think this device is pretty competitive with the FW 13 Pro and seems to be similarly priced (prices change depending on storage config), but the main downside is soldered RAM (though 32GB of it, no 8GB or 16GB options), as well as the lack of niceties like touch support, interchangeable ports, and a haptic trackpad. The Framework is also good if you already have an older device, you can just upgrade the components you need, and they have more affordable configurations too, like with 16GB of RAM and the choice of bringing your own SSD. Interestingly, looks like the 1TB SSD from System76 has much slower read speeds compared to FW’s stock options. 2TB and 4TB look to be similar to FW’s.
The new Lemur Pro is a good option if 1) you want a slim 16" Panther Lake device that runs Linux well OOTB, 2) You don’t mind the non-upgradeable RAM (32GB), and 3) you’re okay with spending more money to support System76
(FW16 is a decent 16" option but is pretty bulky with the AMD 300 series CPU. It does have dGPU options though which is pretty cool, and it has all the benefits of FW devices)
I think this device is pretty competitive with the FW 13 Pro and seems to be similarly priced (prices change depending on storage config), but the main downside is soldered RAM (though 32GB of it, no 8GB or 16GB options), as well as the lack of niceties like touch support, interchangeable ports, and a haptic trackpad. The Framework is also good if you already have an older device, you can just upgrade the components you need, and they have more affordable configurations too, like with 16GB of RAM and the choice of bringing your own SSD. Interestingly, looks like the 1TB SSD from System76 has much slower read speeds compared to FW’s stock options. 2TB and 4TB look to be similar to FW’s.
The new Lemur Pro is a good option if 1) you want a slim 16" Panther Lake device that runs Linux well OOTB, 2) You don’t mind the non-upgradeable RAM (32GB), and 3) you’re okay with spending more money to support System76
(FW16 is a decent 16" option but is pretty bulky with the AMD 300 series CPU. It does have dGPU options though which is pretty cool, and it has all the benefits of FW devices)