I do and please name a single human written program that doesn’t have a fuck up edge case that isn’t literally just hello world.

Neither humans nor AI generally write flawless code

I’m definitely still a noob but I’ve done hundreds of hours of debugging on code in the past few months, and my job for the past 8 years is basically to troubleshoot issues, though the past year I got to start doing devops/code work on the side.

Its fine though, I get why you guys are scared.

“You’ll have no idea” until it doesn’t work lmfao

Y’all are delusional

You can add instructions to not comment, you can also have it explain what it does at every step, not everyone just doesn’t care about learning. It can be a very effective teaching tool if you use it that way. 🤷

The only one actually relevant to “cognitive decline” is the second, do we know what the math questions actually were?

Also I wasn’t making an anology, I’m seriously asking if we’d see the same drop-off, as I think the root of the problem is moreso that humans will generally choose to use less effort rather then more, so any tool that reduces effort might see the same amount of drop off in end result when taken away.

Going with analogies though, people having cars mean less people learning about/using horses/carriages/bikes and as cars are increasingly more complex and less repairable, less people put in the effort to learn how to fix them if something goes wrong.

Ultimately though I have to wonder what does that really matter in the long term? Did people stop doing/understanding math once calculators became common?

One of the points the paper makes is people who used it to help rather then solve the problem for them performed better once it was taken away, which adheres with my own observations on how people use certain tools vs seek to understand how those tool work and deeper their understanding. However again, is it really a problem that a majority of Americans (for example) don’t know how to change the oil on their car? Does that actually indicate they’re less intelligent or unable to rationalize/logically process information? Or do they generally put the effort that would be put into learning how their car works into other efforts.

Unfortunately I think many are simply too burned out with day to day life to care about much learning at all, which is a much larger issue IMO.

Though I will say I do think AI/LLMs will only reinforce that behavior, I’m not sure if that’ll be all bad or really all that different then the existing status quo prior to their spread.

Edit: We could talk about the economic impact it will have, but the root cause is the same as all the other wealth inequality, and I can easily forsee how LLMs could be much more equitable rather then used as vehicles for enrichment.

On the math test, I’d be curious if a calculator was provided instead then taken away half-way through. Would we see the same drop off?

That’s the vista start button lul

You can do it locally now pretty easily depending on your use ass and hardware, huggingface has all the models you’d need and use something like llama-swap

But everyone on Lemmy said LLMs had no usecases

Depends on how much quantization, but still fairly beefy, couldn’t run it on my homelab with a 3080ti for example.

I generally use smaller 8-12b models and they’re alright depending on the task.

But they also should visit and be able to interact with prisons lmao.

Basically just rely on tool calling to a time server of some sort 🤷

Proxmox as another option

Lmao e/OS CEO says a thing, someone inevitably in the comments, “How could GrapheneOS do this!”

I thought Samsung stock was better because of Knox et all

You don’t think they’d happily target Lemmy if it were larger? It’s still “social media” to them

Good god every time I have to interact with you it’s like you’re intentionally obtuse/trolling.

The argument you’re apparently not getting is no shit their PC sales are lower than whatever magic figure they think it should be, the one time they released a new game at the same time (Helldivers 2) it sold phenomenally well on PC too.

Every other game they have done is years after release on PS and obviously any hype has already died down. It’s obvious why that would reduce sales figures comparatively, it’s not a new game anymore and the only ones picking it up are people who were interested enough long enough to grab it on PC.

Like me, I bought Spiderman 1/Miles Morale’s/2 because I love Spiderman games lol, but not nearly enough to go get a console.

I’m fine not getting any more PS games, it’s just a lost sale for them though 🤷

Then they should release them at the same time not years and years after.

I highly doubt it’s just that, I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the devs who actually put in all the work upfront have left or been removed. See the same shit at Google, remember when it was actually a good search engine? Priorities shifted to making money above all else instead of making good products.