I believe it was bootstrapped with tech from Philips. I didn’t know it was American.

Corporates are involved in LLVM, Linux, GCC/GDB too, Go, Java, GraalVM, etc. too. Erlang came out of corporates too. These things seem too big to be done by volunteers. And Qualcomm probably bought them for their Max platform.

Mojo seems like good collateral output. Its base, MLIR, was already open. Their stdlib already was too.

eh, it runs on e-mail infrastructure; also, it does a little bit more than messaging.

You can use your usual e-mail ID, and message anybody else’s e-mail ID, but securely only if they also use Delta Chat. To work around the big servers seeing your social graph, they recommend using randomly-generated IDs on always-encrypted tuned e-mail servers that they call “chat mail” servers.

Either way, you also get user-to-user web apps called WebXDC. This is something even some XMPP clients have added nowadays.

I have come to think that Lisps are meta-progranming-only languages.

Well, we have used C/C++ in applications instead of higher-level languages. AI could atleast be used to port them, even to, say, a slightly higher-level language like Vala for GNOME apps. Automating the putting of lipstick on a pig and the fattening of pigs isn’t very useful if horses are the better choice.

Your point seems to be “open-source-with-monetization now has a problem, but altruistic-source doesn’t”. Maybe the linked blog was that narrow in focus on open-source, and you force-expanded it to altruistic-source.

I think projects with principles are in the same quandry as those with a monetization objective. Software under GPL-like licenses has a problem, LLMs slurp up Linux and GCC source code and spit out non-compliant derivative work. It is no longer possible to promote principles by contributing in the open. There is also no hope of software authors winning damages from companies the way book authors seem to have won in court.

This should be grounds for prosecution as phishing, right?

Do commercial apps work on such an installation? I have seen them get worse, checking for non-rooted, non-developer-mode-enabled, Google Play Store enabled, etc.

More like a vocal minority, I’d guess. Its upto the majority to also be vocal.

Also, which native UIs do people like coding up? Most UI toolkits have JS bindings, don’t they? So only HTML/CSS is the bad fit?

They also bought the Bun JS company, didn’t they? Maybe they actually can improve the spp a bit by replacing Node with Bun.

Go landfills!

There has been the “4opens” criteria, that has been more on point than free/libre/open source.

In hindsight, defeating corporate and AI piggery might have needed single-maintainer closed source with open protocols. Software components? Maybe it would have led to the compound document model instead of the app model, architecturally enforcing openness.

“The code I produce using AI is mine.”

Isn’t it actually of the people on whose code the LLM was trained on?

Delta chat uses e-mail securely https://delta.chat/

I think it is intellectual laziness to do Python just for its ecosystem when saner options abound.

hmm. Are you atleast getting credit for fixing all that?

LLMs defacto seem resource guzzlers, and are continuously overloading websites.

This is great. Overdue if you consider the values they espouse. Quite feasible for a compiler project to ignore the network effects of Github. Is their Discord usage next :-)

There is https://tauri.app/ coming up to let Electron app developers debloat their offerings.