• rational_lib@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Here’s how this works:

    1. Network is created that doesn’t discriminate on speech.
    2. The left wins debates and it becomes increasingly liberal over time.
    3. Far right billionaires buy it to stop those process.
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      2 hours ago

      That’s why decentralized platforms have to be the answer. They might not be impossible to co-opt, but they’re certainly more difficult.

      I’ve been warning people about this stuff for years, and they wouldn’t listen. I’m not happy about being right. It sucks!

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      2 hours ago

      What does it take to get people to switch, though? The owner of X did a Nazi salute in front of a national audience. Twice. And most people are still on there.

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      2 hours ago

      Totally with you on that 🙌 Independent platforms feel more real. How long have you been exploring the fediverse?

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    18 hours ago

    Yeah I just hope it kills the app, which I’m sure it will. I never began using it in the first place but seeing it take over all of my fellow Gen Z, you know, the same ones who have admitted to thinking politics don’t matter, won’t be very happy when their favorite app turns to even more utter trash

    Hopefully this wins more minds away from social media and even more people can wake the fuck up here in Amerikkka.

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      13 hours ago

      I think people won’t care, at least this demographic fellow Gen Z. They still gonna use the app. Arguemnts such as “oh everyone uses this to send funny tiktoks to themselves it’s not that big of a deal” it will be just more shit to go through. Similar thing to Twitter. Everyone is so pissed at Elon because more bot accounts, you can’t or couldn’t block him and other shady stuff but still uses the twitter (X) because… everyone uses it.

      But I also hope it will kill the app.

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        5 hours ago

        I’m seeing people moving to sky (or whatever it’s called). It takes time for people to switch social media platforms.

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    21 hours ago

    Unsurprising that a guy collapsing the Republic into a fascist dictatorship says that TikTok should be a mouthpiece for the Government. It’s time for someone in a country that ISN’T the US, Russia, or China to start a TikTok rival for people to switch to.

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    18 hours ago

    I’m sure it really depends on where you live, but here in East Europe I’ve noticed tiktokkers slowly turning into Z’ers who start accepting Russian disinfo as facts. Meaning, it’s already pro-MAGA

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    1 day ago

    So, Trump effectively nationalized TikTok, valued at $300b. He sells it to friendly oligarchs for $15b. So far, this is basically the post-USSR playbook, and how Roman Abravmovich, Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Lisin, etc. got so rich.

    But it might piss off his oligarch buddies if he drives all the users off TikTok making what seemed like a steal into something worthless instead.

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      20 hours ago

      I think that just like Elon with Twitter, the value is not in revenue but controlling the narrative.

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        5 hours ago

        That only works if people use it.

        For some reason, people have stuck with Twitter. But, the users of TikTok are not the same as the users of Twitter, so who knows, maybe they won’t stick with it.

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      22 hours ago

      This will be truth social again with a pre-existing user base and better algorithms. People will drop off, but they will probably boil the frog slowly to keep people around.

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      In ex-USSR that happened as something destructive, but in USA honestly it’s normal, using institutional pressure to help friendly businesses. Trump is unusual only in how grotesque he is in his position, but history saw Talleyrand.

      And US sanctioned Japan just because some of its businesses couldn’t compete, which didn’t kill Japanese car industry, but hurt Japanese computer industry, and sent Japan into recession from which it didn’t quite recover.

      About driving users off - that doesn’t really happen unless you intentionally break everything. VKontakte be the experiment showing this, except TG was later made based on VK makers’ experience with social stuff, and was very successful, and is now basically the most convenient messaging\social platform. When something FOSS manages to reproduce the experience of TG, then FOSS messaging and social systems stand a chance. So - some of the life moved from VK to TG, but it’s more of VK’s experience stagnating and being too complex and overloading, not of people fleeing it.