It really occurs to me that this emphasis on surveillance (Palantir, this Discord stuff, the cameras everywhere, etc.) really shows how afraid the billionaire class is. They’re trying to identify those that are getting uppity to try and prevent organizing, which they hope would quash revolution. They know people are angry; they know they’ve been looting and pillaging; they know they’ve been denying access to basic things like food, housing, healthcare; and they know they work for hostile interests. Yet, they’re going to keep on doing it. They even have a new police force.
It never works though.
It never works though.
If you get under the hood of Mangione’s actual history and ideology, the guy was an Effective Altruist insider. Not some Far-Left Antifa Radical, but a staunch techbro anarcho-libertarian who initially sympathized with Balaji Srinivasan’s Network State and Peter Thiel’s vision of fully capitalist Start Up Cities.
He’d never have normally registered on a dragnet like this.
But, more importantly, he’s a near-singular instance of vigilante violence against a business executive. To say “it never works”, you need to ignore the enormous security apparatus surrounding Fortune 100 senior executives. And the relative infrequency of these attempts in general. Since Thompson, there hasn’t been some wave of executive assassinations. The closest we’ve seen was another lone wolf shooting of Charlie Kirk. Has a billionaire ever been deliberately targeted and killed… ever?
Whether it is through a reasonably robust security state, a militantly apathetic public, or the general anonymity of business executives, the real physical risk to billionaires and their CEO stogies appears to be nearly zero.
“We have determined based on the shape of your nose that you are Jewish. Please follow us to the nearest train.”
“We have determined based on the shape of your nose that you are not Jewish. Please follow us to the nearest train.”
What? But Discord pinky promised that pictures would stay on my system, and be deleted immediately after verification. Are you implying that they lied? Pikachu shock face
This title isn’t what the article says at all. There’s a secondary system completely separate from persona’s main system, that is seemingly tied to openai and government systems, most likely tied to ICE.
If that’s what they said literally (pictures stay local) then they probably didn’t say that the face data leaves the devices
I’d have to double check, but I also don’t think they said the picture would only be used for age verification.
You will only be checked if you want access to adult servers or servers with adult sections, so there’s a decent chance you won’t be affected by the change either way. However, if Discord fails to properly verify you with the information it has, you will have to give your ID and/or a face scan “through trusted partners.”
Discord says it only receives the age of users, and identity details given in the verification process are not associated with your account.
Perhaps partners will receive account info but Discord won’t receive identity? If Discord collects and shares a lot of data then maybe they can correlate account metadata with identity
Well, now I see why there was an avoid OpenAI movement. They actually allowed Persona to create an internal database of their users and may be a potential AI provider for gov surveillance.
Since when did OpenAI started using Persona, and is it widely known that they use it ? Does anybody know? I used their service way back at gpt 3.5 days, back then you didn’t need any verification.
“This person looks like they might commit a crime in the future. You guys should go arrest him before that happens so we can ‘zero out crime’ in our neighborhoods.”
The neighborhoods where crime has been ‘zeroed-out’:
Also plot of Psycho pass… Spoiler it didn’t eliminate crime…
Someone is disagreeing with the Sybil System? Let’s have your criminality coefficient checked.
Literally that one episode of Futurama
Literally the movie Minority Report
Precogs are machines in our version.
Which one?
Robinhood also uses Persona and may not allow you to transfer money out without providing ID and face scans.
Not sure why anyone would still be using Robinhood after that GME debacle, but if they are, this is a good reason to stop.
What’s next, some kind of psychological profile based on the bumps and grooves of my skull?
Godamn will y’all stop writing their next steps out for them to create the newest dystopian hellhole update
I see that your profile indicates some reservations about synergizing with the Torment Nexus but have you considered the value it brings to the shareholders?
Must collect .00000001% more dollars per unit, it’s only billions of lives after all
Urge to maximize paperclips rising…
To verify that you are permitted to use our platform, please answer the following prompt: You’re in a desert walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise…
What one? What desert?
Do I know the tortoise?
Does it owe me money?
What’s next is that they are going to guilt you in to accepting it because it’s “to save kids from pedophiles and if you don’t fork over your ID, you’re either helping pedophiles or you are a pedophile yourself.”
And it’s going to work. You’re going to go along with it.
Reddit implemented this for brits months ago and there has been no mass exodus. They all forked over their IDs to save the kids. They’re probably all stuck on Discord too assuming everyone who’s leaving is a pedophile. Once KOSA and EARN IT pass here in the US, we also will go along with it, to stop the pedophiles.
“Won’t somebody think of the children?”
I opened Microsoft Solitaire on my phone the other day and the fucking thing wanted to age verify me. Over on the desktop the same thing happened in MS App Store. The stupid part? I’ve had this Microsoft account for so long that it legally qualifies as an adult in its own right.
Why can’t people just go down to their local shop, show their ID like when you buy alcohol, and buy some kind of age verification token/code which can be used with online services?
because that would be sensible and privacy-friendly, and our governments are controlled by fascist pieces of shit that want to have full control over us.
Cause the goal has never been to prevent underage access it’s to create a database of troublemakers and brown people
They very literally could not possibly care about protecting children less. They just want as much of your data as possible so they can neutralize you if you ever become a problem to them.
my id has an nfc chip built in, I can scan it with my phone to confirm my identity. if only online services could implement an identity check that way.
if only online services could implement an identity check that way.
Outside of banking and taxes, I can’t think of a single online service that I want verifying my identity. Ostensibly, these services just want to verify if you’re of legal age. The small, binary question of “Are you over 18?” should require much less private data than would be needed to verify my identity.
They can! In fact, in the UK some government services do this already however there’s a couple of drawbacks:
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They’d need to use some kind of companion app for each device since the web APIs won’t give them access to this.
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For us at least the NFC chip still contains a digital copy of the photo so it’s not really any better since I don’t know what data is going to be sent by the app.
Maybe I’m wrong then, but I just kinda assumed that when I log into some government platform by scanning my ID with an official app all it does is it confirms my identity and sends some kinda encrypted token to the api of whatever platform I’m trying to access.
Although if that’s not the case then yea, I guess that wouldn’t be very anonymous either.
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My point wasn’t one of convenience, but more one of privacy. What’s the difference between someone demanding a photo of your ID (and then storing it) and someone taking the same information from an NFC scan and then storing it?
I don’t know about other countries, but the german e-ID for example is more sophisticated than that. It can actually limit access to the information that is necessary for the given application (your terminal or app shows you what specific information is requested before you confirm via PIN). So it can just return “yes/no” to the question “is this person an adult?” Almost no company uses it, likely because they can’t steal data that way.
The government has the names of prolific pedophiles and all they do is protect these rich and powerful child abusers.
Any claims that they’re doing stuff like this to protect kids is complete bullshit.
It seriously gets worse the more you read and hear about their “verification system”.
… to combat online child exploitative material, fentanyl trafficking, romance fraud, money laundering…
How is romance fraud at the same level as child exploit or money laundering? These assholes want to take full control of the world population.
They just wanted to pack that list. Who thinks child exploitation is a true concern while nothing is done about the Epstein file?
It’s financial fraud with a romance hook. It’s like nigerian prince scams, except instead of some rich prince who will pay you back many times over, the motivation is helping your long distance lover with some big financial problem that came up.
It’s not just referring to people getting catfished (it’s possible the other person is even real, because it’s a lot more effective when they can do video chats and video chat sex… And it might even involve human trafficking and/or slavery and that woman’s whole “job” is to have video chat sex with targets).
That said, I think those are all just excuses, valid threats or not.
Pig butchering pulls in billions and steals entire life savings.
Yeah, I’d say it’s at least on the same level as money laundering.
Jfc, I mean I was guessing that something like this was going on behind the scenes. But I guess it’s reassuring to see it out in the open.
Just deleted my Discord account. It wasn’t an issue since I have no friends and never use it but still… it’s the principle of the thing?
Don’t let others downplay the “quality” of your protest. “It doesn’t really matter, does it?” is the #1 enemy of protests.
True.
I deleted reddit, for that matter, and working on degoogling, which is a really hard one.
At this point, it’s not really protest. It’s just that, despite being crazy lazy, there are no more excuses. This government actually is hunting down people who dissent online. No more talk of conspiracy theories. The facts are in.
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They have a bit of a reputation for overcharging for hard drives with their logos on it, but otherwise it can do all the things you need, pretty much turn key solutions for cloud services like mail server, office collaboration suite, cloud drive, team chat and so much more.
We should all just take pics of our taint and send that in. Malicious compliance.
They’ll just forward the data to the butthole database; we still lose ✨
Playing the entire Bee movie to reporting hotlines for ICE worked for a bit. Let’s kick it up a notch.
Off to take some photos of bee taints, I guess
Just use goatse
