• Amoxtli@thelemmy.club
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    2 days ago

    California pays 19 dollars per kilowatt hour. Texas grid is better. Not only does Texas consume the most electricity, they do it at lower prices, comparable to poor states like New Mexico. Bidenomics subsidizes green energy at loss in the Texas grid.

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      13 hours ago

      not even close lol, having systemic blackouts randomly is not an indication of a good grid.

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      No dummy, you’re missing a decimal point. California only pays 19 CENTS per kwh.

      And if conservative Texas is so great how come they pay 20% more per kwh for electricity than deep blue Washington State?

      Everything’s bigger in Texas, especially the idiots & excuses.

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        24 hours ago

        Washington State?

        Washing State has a ton of hydro, because they get a ton of rain in the mountains, thus near-constant hydro power supply. That really won’t work in Texas.

        I live in Utah and we have pretty average prices (about $0.12-0.13/kWh), which is pretty decent considering we have a competitive amount of renewables and a similar lack of hydro options.

        I grew up in WA and we had a lot of cool classes about the geography of the region, especially things like the Grand Coulee Dam. I even took my kids there to show how hydro works. We have dams here in UT, but they’re mostly to preserve water for the summer when we get almost no precipitation.

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        2 days ago

        Deep blue Washington state has the advantage of giant amounts of hydroelectric generation combined with a relatively small population to consume it.

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        Washington has hydroelectric sources. 67 percent of its power is from hydro sources. Wind and solar are a tiny portion of its energy mix. Even nuclear power exceeds its wind and solar energy sources. Texas has proven it can scale energy sources the fastest. Texas has the most renewable energy in the US. It has the most solar and wind energy of any state. Washington isn’t a top manufacturing state. It can’t handle the demand load and Texas has the highest energy demand because it is a top manufacturing state. When you are dealing with energy intensive manufacturing, costs add up, go ask the Germans. The Texas grid is just better.

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          The Texas grid is just better.

          As a Texan who has lost power, for weeks at a time, 4 times in the last 10 years, I disagree. I live near a major city and we lose power almost every time there’s strong wind, rain, or sub-freezing temps. Maybe you’re just lucky to live where you live? I’ve lived all over my city, and it’s surrounding suburbs, and it’s been pretty much the same everywhere.

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      22 hours ago

      California pays 19 dollars per kilowatt hour.

      I think that you might be thinking cents, not dollars.

      Typical residential electricity prices in the US are two digits number of cents per kWh.

      Also, I’m pretty sure that California’s residential average price in 2025 is above $0.19/kWh. Maybe that’s the cost of generation alone or something.

      EDIT: This has PG&E’s residential pricing at about twice that, unless someone’s getting low-income assistance.

      https://www.pge.com/assets/pge/docs/account/alternate-energy-providers/pce-sm_rateclasscomparison.pdf

      They list their cost of generation there as being about $0.14/kWh.

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        23 hours ago

        Exactly. I have family in CA, WA, and I live in Utah, which is quite the gamut when it comes to electrical generation. CA is by far the most expensive, followed by UT (we’re pretty average), followed by WA (cheap due to tons of hydro). CA is expensive because their electricity policies are stupid IMO, UT is cheap because we’re somewhat reasonable (too much fossil fuels, but competitive renewables), and WA is cheap because they have more water than they know what to do with (ironically though, their water prices are higher than ours).

        I don’t know much about Texas, but I imagine it’s similar to how things are here in UT, it just scales better since they have ~10x the population.