spotify and major music labels should be sued for 13 trillion
AI have made pirating legal, as long as you are not pirating for personal enjoyment. Isn’t that the defence the AI companies have used successfully?
Its just tribal politics.
While authority exists, everything it can touch is tribal politics and bullshit abstraction layers on top of them. Literally everything.
And terrorism. Tribal politics and terrorism.
May all lawyers involved die in the most horrible way possible. Actually scratch that, May all corporate lawyers regardless of involvement die in the most horrible way possible. ☺️
Be the change.
Change is about the only thing I got because of corporate greed
Haha
Apparently it’s legal and acceptable to demand, through a court, enough money to destroy the world economy.
Seriously, if I were the judge I’d throw out the lawsuit until they come up with a remotely realistic number. As it is, it makes the whole lawsuit look like a joke.
The gratuitous vulgar nonsense of it is the point. Its LBJ slapping his cock on the desk during a serious meeting to drive home that you cant fucking stop him
The whole lawsuit is a joke.
And it should be permanently thrown out and not seen again because of how unserious that number is.
That is not how laws work or what they are for. Do not be a child.
What about what they said was childish?
How do you even sue a shadow library? Aren’t they like, behind 7 proxies?
You make an effort to contact the defended and bring the lawsuit to a judge. I don’t think the court will grant the 13 billions judgement, that’s a fantasy number but I don’t think they will throw out the lawsuit either.
Ans since Anna’s Archive won’t show up in court Spotify will probably receive a default judgement which they can fold and shove up their ass.
They are probably going after companies affiliated with Anna’s Archive next, like especially hosting providers.
Plus, they’re using the neighbour’s internet!
Checkmate, spotify!
Is this the music industry asking for more than all the money in the world again?
Yes, I did say again.
Who is going to stop them? You?
LINE MUST GO UP. ANY LINE ACTUALLY. WE’RE FUCKIN DESPERATE.
- Businesses everywhere
Well, more along the lines of 10% of all the worlds money.
… very reasonable indeed 😜
Say whatever you like. Like a tape measure, Money isn’t real, Giygas. Stop trying to Rape Heidi. She’ll get Mad, Pokey.
They’re gonna shit when they find out about yt-dlp
we have stood with the artist community against piracy
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Anna’s archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata
over a massive music data scrape
So when are you going to sue AI companies?
sue companies
I don’t understand. This sentence does not parse. Thats like sending an email to the legal department of my kidneys.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Anna’s archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata
Were they not going to release the songs as well? They just started with the metadata?
ETA: Yes, this is from their blog post about it:
The data will be released in different stages on our Torrents page:
[X] Metadata (Dec 2025)
[ ] Music files (releasing in order of popularity)
[ ] Additional file metadata (torrent paths and checksums)
[ ] Album art
[ ] .zstdpatch files (to reconstruct original files before we added embedded metadata)You can’t sue people for something they haven’t done yet. Presumably if and when the actual music files are released the damages will go up proportionally - probably to something like $(volume of the universe / Planck distance^3)
I am not sure the shareholders will accept such a meager compensation. Did you include emotional damage in your estimate?
You can’t
No. Because you’re meat. Not a real person with articles of incorporation and a robust legal department. Wake the fuck up.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Anna’s archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata
200gb meta, 300tb music. Just 300tb not released yet. Might be, might not.
So when are you going to sue AI companies?
I think some sue suno and settle for money. And GEMA (germany) sue openai for songtext.
13 fantastillion dollars
Spotify doesn’t even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway? Also this isn’t even stealing just a digital copy sent by spotify servers
Spotify doesn’t even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway?
Because it was stolen already. By Anna’s archive. Isn’t that obvious!?
Probably theorizing every potential peer is pulling the whole archive.
So net worth * 100.000 potential peers = $$$Perhaps Anna can pay them off with theoretical potential money too? Like, a big collection of monkey NFTs.
Or exposure.
Weird, I wasn’t aware that Spotify OWNED this music. I’m fairly certain they they only license it.
Spotify and Major Music Labels
I guess if I were an artist I’d look at this and feel justified suing Spotify for 1 billion dollars for the lack of protection of my music.
I assume any contracts detailing the guarantees of Spotify’s DRM are clear that it’s not Fail-Safe.
What?! To pay Africa’s debt for sure.
$13.000.000.000.000
Like, are we 12 now? I too would come up with these bazonker numbers at that age.
Fuck Spotify,fuck the current legal system that got us here
The higher the number, the more the stock goes up when they announce it. Should be opposite though really if these guys are incompetent enough to lose $13 trillion because of a single pirate.
Are you going to tell me that investors are bumb enough not to see that nobody will ever even see a % of a % of a % of a % of a % of that number?
Why, none of that matters. Stock markets run on the hopes and dreams of investors. That’s how guys like Sam Altman can get away with evaluating their company at $1 trillion despite the bottom line showing them doing nothing but wasting funds.
While I do agree in general, Open ai is not a public company. Valuation logics of private companies are quite different than stock market.
So in other words, yes, they are that dumb
The fact that Anna’s Archive isn’t responding to the court tell me they couldn’t give a shit about the lawsuit.
Glorious.
“Sir, this is Wendys” energy.
Working Anna’s Archive link :
Did they release the actual music yet?
It would be funny if they didn’t actually have any of it and were just pestering the industry. But they did release all the metadata, and spotify seems to think it’s legit…
It’s funny because Spotify disabled app creation from their developer portal. I bet the scraping was just calling their APIs
TY!
