Only moments before the world ends will mankind look back and realize that “won’t someone think of the children” was the thing that did us in.
Like all the previous fascist waves, they all centre around discrimination. It is about taking advantage of the societies inherent discriminatory behavior, in the past this was mainly racism - in this case however, its ageism.
It is the fact that anyone young is treated as a subclass citizen or in fact not even a person. ID laws are examples of fascist unjust laws which consequently invalidate the freedom and speech of young people. Our society rewards infantilization of others, and it shows how truly ignorant and adulcentrist we all are.
Finally, I don’t believe all of mankind will look back, as all the cases with fascism is “ignorance is strength”, so tracing the problem back to our societal ageism and discrimination will only be done by a select bunch.
Most Apple accounts need a credit card attached. If kids have a phone then it will need a credit card. As you need to be 18 in many countries to get a credit card then for kids to use a phone they will need the parents card. I fail to see how this helps age verification.
That’s because these ghouls don’t actually care how old you are, they just wanna know what you’re doing at all times.
Nah, they just want money, is all.
You think they don’t already? Can you even use an iPhone without an Apple ID? I’m fairly sure you couldn’t install any apps without one, and if you’ve ever paid for anything they definitely already have your real data.
Doesn’t mean it has the user’s ID.
They know the user’s identity - they have the name and home address on the credit card used to pay.
If you mean “it doesn’t have the user’s ID card”, well that’s true. But that’s mainly because the UK doesn’t actually have an ID card or national ID database/reference number, so NO operator in the UK has “the user’s ID” in that sense.
The person paying might not be the user, is what I mean. I’m thinking of phones given to younger family members.
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That’s just not true, at least in the UK. Debit cards are the standard here, not credit, and they don’t have the same age restrictions.
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The fuck is going on over there?
We have a government that thinks the population needs to be parented through authoritarian means. The don’t understand that even though their intentions might be benign, they are still building the infrastructure of an authoritarian state.
You’re giving them too much credit. Their intentions are not benign and they are the authoritarian state
I think some are idiots with benign intentions and some aren’t. Your average labour back bencher is an idiot.
From a distance, it all seems very intentional to me.
Maybe UK citizen have not yet realized how badly they screwed themselves with Brexit, and they need a second shot of an even sadder reality? Or maybe they’ve just given up already?
Why did they want to leave the EU anyway?
Beside the handful of real absolute morons/racists/haters (we have similar people in the EU too, they are far from being exclusive to Britain), I consider this an impressive scam that went somewhat completely wrong.
Those promoting Brexit never intended to really leave the EU, that was a mean to grab more power by manipulating the… lesser informed population, and they were indeed quite surprised the day those people, and then a few more with them, actually voted for that Brexit scam. Making them the proud leader of something that was probably never meant to happen. Hence their absolute lack of preparation for it and the shit show that followed for years.
It’s also a demonstration of why a failing public educative system is fatal to a working democracy. Uneducated citizen can’t vote with their brains, only with their guts. And we all know that what usually comes out of guts is not ideas, right?
Something we can also witness happening in the USA, quite obviously, but also in most countries in the EU even in my dear own France. Sadly.
Most of us didn’t….half the country voted, and a quarter voted leave, having believed the lies of snake oil salesman Nigel Farage and one or two others that the EU was screwing us over somehow, and its “unelected official” weren’t helping. Plus some other bollocks about migrants.
This has nothing to do with Brexit. And I’m struggling to find anything in my daily life where Brexit has had a negative effect. Strangely enough when I ask people how it’s affecting their daily life nobody seems to actually come up with an example that has anything to do with Brexit. The most common one is having to use passports to travel to the EU but we always had to do that because the UK wasn’t part of Schengen and I can only assume those who bring up that example have never ever left the UK.
Person unaffected by past bad decisions doesn’t see how that’s a problem.
This has nothing to do with Brexit
Most of that surveillance shit wouldn’t fly in EU
Europe are introducing it, some countries already have before the UK. But thanks for letting us know you’ve done zero research on the matter.
The Brits want what America is having
If this happens in Denmark/EU. I will say f**k convenience and go graphene, even though it will make my like more complicated
I use Graphene, it’s not that much harder than stock Android. I highly recommended it.
But with less ads?
So you’re using iPhone now but are anonymous to apple? You didn’t register any accounts on your phone or in the AppStore with your email or credit card data?
For me as well. I’ve just ordered a used Pixel 10 Pro so I’m going to give it a try. One inconvenience is that my current phone uses an eSIM which means that I cannot simply swap over and back if desired.
Why not? I thought swapping was promoted as a benefit of eSIM.
Can you swap an eSIM to a phone that doesn’t use eSIM?
And Apple don’t accept passports as ID, so complaints are rolling in from non-drivers without current credit cards, who tend to be younger and in big cities. Apple just took a big shot at their foot.
No, they gave the government another reason for a mandatory government id scheme. Something deeply unpopular with a large part of the population, but that Starmer is devoted to.
As a German, not having a mandatory government ID seems so weird to me.
I don’t like to bring it up, but it was the Germans that convinced us to get rid of them.
But… but… its for “children”
I installed this last night and was presented with a warning screen saying that I’d have to provide ID, then the following screen basically said “Nah, you’re good bro, we don’t need your ID”.
I’m hoping that was as a result of my Apple ID having been set up many years ago, rather than them having seen my camera roll and concluded that this guy is clearly old as fuck.
Or they have your credit card info?
Well they do, but the actual reason given on the subsequent screen was down to when my Apple ID was set up.
Looks like they do it either way.
I’m in Germany, installed this update on my iPad, but have not seen any mention of an ID yet. 🤷♂️
Probably because Germany doesn’t have to follow laws passed in UK.
Upon updating their device software, users will be faced with a message which says: “UK law requires you to confirm you are an adult to change content restrictions.”
There is no such requirement in UK law that it age checks have to be done on a device level.
