And somehow every single time the problem was so easy to solve, but apparently crying about it is the better solution.
As always the best way to get a response on the internet is not to ask a question.
The best way is to post a wrong answer.
Classic murphys law.
Step (5): realise the lion’s share of people have no clue how anything works, and throwing a tantrum is their only (successful) technique to any technical problem.
Debianees will only answer your inquiry, however, if it is worded in a proper polite way. Here is a proper, polite way to ask for tech support.
OMG! DEBIAN IS SO PATHETIC! IT CAN’T ________, BUT WINDOWS CAN _____ JUST BY CLICKING _______!
Rushing to defend their precious Linux, they will give the most descriptive, polite, useful information possible. If you use “normal” manners though, you will most likely get flamed, insulted, and receive at least 10 viruses by email. All of which will be written in “1337”, for no appearent reason. Your IP will be traced, and eventually your Linux OS will be hijacked and destroyed. In some cases your CPU might melt from having to handle so much hacking by insecure “Debianees”.
I’ve switched to Linux because at this point it’s easier to deal with problems on Linux than using Windows and getting it to usable state.
And if something doesn’t run on Linux… I use something else, easy as that.
In the late 1990s/early 2000s, there was some satire article about how to get most effective Linux support. Just write an angry news/blog article about how Linux sucks because it doesn’t (insert the thing you’re having problems with here). You bet someone will immediately respond how you’re an idiot and you should (insert detailed explanation of how to fix the thing here).
Nvmd, I fixed the issue
How is this clown behavior? If anything, not accepting the proposed solution to the issue would be it
This is more like, wisdom of the ancients kind of thing
Yeah? Try playing MYST VR with a quest 2 and Nvidia GPU.
I love Linux, but sometimes I just wanna pin it against the wall and make violent love to it until my issue is fixed. Though usually the love making is more of a frustrating 6 hours of troubleshooting.
BTW, are we allowed to sexualize an OS?
Initial release: September 17, 1991; 33 years ago
Sure
I had really bad performance with an nvidia GPU in VR in Linux, once, and all I could find that described the same specific issue I had was a steam community discussion post by someone who claimed that the steam vr compositor was just bugged, and no less that it was a bug regression, and there was nothing to do but wait for Valve to fix it. I think the post was already a year old when I found it.
I haven’t tried it again, yet, but I’ve also moved to arch with Wayland since then. And the nvidia drivers did become much more reliable for me, so maybe it will magically work out of the box this time… Or maybe it won’t, and I’ll just end up wasting hours trying to find a solution while wading through AI polluted Google searches again before giving up.
quest 2
There’s your problem right there. /s
Funny, this sounds an awful lot like people who complain about the fediverse
This.
You cant decide about your instance? Well how the fuck did you decide to use reddit then instead of all the other forum based Websites then?
Fine, I’ll give this strategy a shot too: Linux is crap because when I switch USB audio interface with a switcher the audio becomes extremely borked likely because of buffer settings somehow changing, to me it feels like the buffer is too small and then all these audio crackling issues start propping up.
Windows doesn’t have this issue whatsoever, it’s only when I switch back to Linux in the switcher that the audio is borked.
Pipewire/Pipewire-pulse
I haven’t messed around with audio in a while, but a couple of years ago I did some home recording. And Linux at the time was horrible to use for recording. Got a bunch of latency and some other issues. I found a solution where one guy had written a bunch of scripts to deal with the buffering when switching audio driver. It helped, but it wasn’t perfect.
No idea what the state of audio is now, but it used to suck. And it will probably suck for a while since the major DAWs are all on Windows/Mac. But I would love to be proven wrong
I use reaper on Linux to monitor my guitar coming in from Axe Fx 3’s spdif output with very low latency. What exactly was giving you issues with latency ?
Might have been the soundcard on my laptop, the old external soundcard I used or audio driver. No idea what the problem actually was. This was a couple of years ago, and I wasn’t very proficient in Linux. I gave up, and then haven’t tried again since.
I used Reaper and an old soundcard from Steinberg. Don’t remember which drivers. Think I ran Ubuntu at the time.
I have a Bluetooth dongle headset-mic. Probably for the same buffer reason, it constantly breaks audio when I have multiple audios in/outs running.
The only consistent fix is switching to another audio driver and playing a video on YouTube while I switch it back.
YouTube specifically? Or does it work as long as any audio is running? I usually leave games on and switch back in and the audio’s borked.
I just watched that Linus tech tips video where the guy uninstalls critical system components by accident while trying to install steam.
First the GUI for the package manager refuses to do it, then apt gives him a warning that he’s going to break his system. It even makes him type “Yes, do what I say!” but he’s too much of a clown to read the warning messages all over his screen. He even smirks at the camera about how silly it is that he would need to type such a thing before he proceeds to mess everything up.
People were trying to defend him, saying that the system shouldn’t have allowed him to do it or that the warnings should have been flashing and shooting rainbows out of the monitor or that a robot arm should have come out and started honking his clown nose to let him know he was doing something stupid.
Linus and Linux is a rare view behind the curtain
There have been some accusations about him being a sociopath by Louis Rossmann and others, so it might just be that CIA money flowing into his pocket thats preventing him from rational thought
Also, isn’t he a fucking IT guy? How did he even manage to build that many PCs and make all those videos about tech topics when he can’t even read a red coloured warning and having to type in a very suspicious message?
Linus bothers me quite a bit and I’m fairly critical of him, but I don’t know if I would go as far as saying he is a sociopath. We would probably even be friends, but I would call him on his bull shit. This is my own observations but he strikes me as having pretty strong ADHD combined with getting lucky and big a bit faster than he could adjust to.
His company has a much lower turnover rate than the industry standard and it doesn’t seem like anyone that has been on screen couldn’t do well elsewhere. That implies to me that the working environment is at least pretty good. He also seems to want to do right by his employees and knows that he is the face of the company and ultimately their paycheck. That combined with an ego that is a little too big, and maybe some issues with reading the room associated with being on the spectrum (again supposition), makes some of his reactions to public push back understandable even if it’s not OK.
Also it depends on what you consider an IT guy. He doesn’t have experience coding or doing any low level stuff, he just really enjoys building computers and tech in general which can explain a lot of his poor or dumb decisions. What he appears to actually be very good at with tech is his knowledge of supply chains, interactions between companies, and knowing what consumers are likely to actually want.
Didn’t one of his staff admit to self harming as a way to get out of work?
That would be news to me.
People seem to take an all or nothing approach to how they view topics or judge people, especially when they are very far removed from it. I think my take is a bit more nuanced and has some value for that reason, since I am able to be critical of some of the things they do while enjoying others.
Found the context. https://twitter.com/suuuoppp/status/1691693769903796331
I haven’t watched much of Linus’s stuff, but his behavior in the three Linux challenge videos reminded me of the way Conan O’Brien would act with his staff. It struck me as an off-putting blend of arrogance, entitlement, and impatient senility.
Yes, exactly
Like, take his 10 year old Video of sticking in aß many Keyboards as possible
He somehow knew all the standards, could troubleshoot it all and still just seemed very competent
With the Linux video, I think he’s like trying to behave like a new user? (Like please tell me who the fuck would be a new user and not go to the forum once there’s a problem, but instead use this terminal and ignore all warnings?)
But even then, like, he knows his channel is not directed towards very tech incompetent people he is trying to emulate. But instead of just doing it like he himself would use Linux, he still put up this costume of ignorance and pretended like this is hard to do. But if you even had the slightest experience with the terminal, even cmd, you will instantly see for how dumb he is taking you by „Trying to emulate his viewership”. And even if you don’t want to make a positive video about Linux, just talk about how office dosent work on it, or how kernel level anti cheat is bad
But instead he is still making videos about trying some very special shit no one would ever do (like install arch as a beginner, install SteamOS even tho there’s Chimera and Bazzite, etc) failing at this very special thing, and then talking about it like this is the Linux experience.
Like, for real, I will bet my nudes that this decade he will try to install Gentoo, say that its the Linux experience, fail badly, and say that Linux is bad.
In fairness, when you’re used to windows those kinds of warnings basically mean nothing to you.
It’s like when you hit snooze on an alarm so many times that you just sleep through your alarm and it becomes background noise.
Also, it’s defiantly a glaring issue if installing steam means uninstalling your whole DE.
Still, as a tech YTer who was exploring something out of his elements he should have looked into every error, warning, and message.
Also, it’s defiantly a glaring issue if installing steam means uninstalling your whole DE.
Can you explain to me how the fuck that even happened?
And 2. Could it have been prevented by him actually following the installation guide and rehashing the bloody image?
To be fair that was a broken package in pop_os. It wasn’t entirely his fault. If his view was to operate as a normal user then he os uninstalling your desktop environment when you try to install steam is a valid concern.
Oké lets see how good crowd trouble shooting is…
Nobara on Fedora can not have the exact same mouse being plugged in multible times. They seem to merge into one and all but one will be ignored (at random).
Okey, without joking*. I have seen quite some people who are unable to Google anything. But I guess that’s why LMGTFY was made.
[*] this is actually a bug, not a joke. If you happen to know the answer. Please share it, it’s driving me nuts
Not nobara related but I found a Linux Mint thread about using xinput to adjust config to have left handed mode enabled for 1 mouse but not another. Maybe that will help. If they’re wireless mice with dongles, maybe they’re struggling in that one mouse is connecting to both receivers? If they offer both bt and wifi pairing you might be able to get around it by manipulating that, or if they can be plugged in that might help.
To be faiiiirrr googling nowadays is a sysiphean exercise in frustration
Follow up question - why do you have multiple mice plugged into your computer?
My PC is connected to a TV and I steam to a diffrent room. So there is a mouse at the TV, at the couch, and in another room
Trackball mouse for work, regular mouse for gaming. This is peak and you cannot convince me otherwise.
I like to point with both hands, and with my feet if I’m in a good mood.
As in 2 of the same model?
Yhea the exact same model, bough at the same time
Windows and Mac have taught people to ignore safety error messages. We’re gonna be dealing with the fallout of that for generations.
Ngl, i love linux so much more and would never go back to windows but right now my audio jack doesn’t work for my new pc build.
I’ve contacted the manufacturer of the motherboard, they say to try Windows
I’ve posted on linux questions subreddit, nothing replied
I’ve posted on EndeavourOS forums, got views, not replies.
I’ve gone so into the weeds I’m trying to remap pins because I’m assuming the manufacturer relies on something Windows pre-configures so audio will play but it never makes it out of the port but it’s been weeks and I can’t solve it.
Again, I’d never go back to windows but damn do I feel stranded rn.
Motherboard: Minisforum BD790i X3D OS: endeavouros
Does your monitor have speakers, or a headphone jack? Interested to see if the sound works that way. And very silly question, have you tried a different wire/device in the audio jack or only the one?
From a quick search it seems that the mobo uses a Realtek audio chip, which is probably the actual problem. My current system build uses one and it barely worked under Windows, it’d randomly remap the channels, sometimes it just wouldn’t come up properly (Showed as only a microphone, etc.), had lots of static noise, would constantly think I was unplugging and replugging headphones in, etc. Just a terrible experience compared to the Intel audio system the build before this used.
As much as “just buy another bit of hardware” is an awful bit of advice, I’d recommend getting a USB DAC/soundcard, I bought a cheap soundblaster one and it fixed all my problems. USB audio is a well-defined standardised protocol that’s supported by just about everything, does away with any driver issues or incompatibilities, can be moved between devices, etc. Mine’s a “gaming” model so it’s just a USB port on one side and a headset jack on the other, but you can also get ones with proper inbuilt amplifiers to run full speaker kits, etc.
Does it work on Windows?
Because it could just as well be a shitty solder job
Also next time never say you use Linux to a support tech. They will blame it all on linux, whether the pc is broken in half or covered in rat piss, it will always be you who broke it by using unsupported software.
This!
What always has me seeing red is when I’m deep diving forums searching for anyone who has had my exact issue. Finding people with similar, but not exactly the same, issues with easy solutions that don’t work for me. Finally finding one forum post from 9 months ago, it is literally the exact same issue I’m dealing with. One reply. It’s OP a few days/weeks/months later replying to their own post only to say:
Nevermind, I fixed it.
But no solution, no response to commenting on the post or DMing…
Makes me wanna slap a mfr…
Have you tried making a meme about how windows is so much better?
So many times I see junior Devs (or not so juniors) and normies seeing an error message and, visibly, static plays between their ears on their mental TV set, then they just click the first button that looks appropriate and complain it didn’t work.
The text of the message does not get read or parsed.
“You need to close the program to continue”. Doesn’t work.
“Unexpected X at line N” Doesn’t work.
Drives me insane.
Unfortunately, so many error messages are so utterly useless that it has taught many people that all errors are just pointless background noise even if they’re actually giving useful info.
I mean, java and Microsoft errors are preceded by 120 characters of useless trash oftentimes, that is equally as infuriating.
Yeah, proprietary software are the worst offenders.
