What is so special about piefed? I see a few communities moving there. The interface looks different from the original lemmy interface.
Our sysadmin explained some technical advantages here: https://feddit.org/post/13613230/7063696
Well, you can add flairs :)
That sucks.
Don’t pull a feddit.de on people, alright?
What exactly happened there? It was the big thing, then I didn’t use it for a month or so and then it was gone.
The admin basically ran it as a one man show with only one other admin who had very limited privileges. He then went on a “business trip” or workaction or longterm vacation - there were different stories. Anyway, the database went belly up, the other admin couldn’t do a thing and none could contact the admin. There are some rumours that he wasn’t who he claimed he was and actually was a Chinese national who simply returned home, but who knows that. As a matter of fact none had any meaningful contact with him for months then and it appears he did not return. (But is alive)
A Austrian NGO who amongst others does host some mastodon instances,etc. took over and now feddit.org is on a very productive, professional and transparent level.
Thanks for the summary! That sounds freaky!
Well, the trade-off between trusting a huge corporation or a single dude on the internet.
Did they run out of sun?
Maybe is vacationing in United Kingdom
After a month and a half downtime all the users will have moved on to other instances. This is essentially a death sentence for the instance and its communities.
Idk, quite a few (me included) made alt accounts for the time being, and we’ll return when it becomes possible, especially if we really do migrate to piefed.
I dont think it will be. I’ve had two accounts for a while to deal with unexpected issues & will happily return to my slrpnk account once it’s back up and running :)
Plus for the communities, people who were subscribed to them before will likely stay subscribed & once the instance is back up the posts will be in their feeds without an issue.
Being able to accommodate issues like this is one of the major upsides to a decentralized platform.
You underestimate the userbase. I made a temp account in the mean time, but we are a hyper tight knit community. We will probably lose accounts - no question - but the core userbase will return
Count me in! Slrpnks all the way! 💚
I agree. I replied to Kris elsewhere saying this, but I am super glad to have been a part of this instance because it feels like a nice balance of being large enough to be robust and diverse, but small enough to have a distinctive culture. I don’t often interact with the communities that were on the instance, but I always enjoy seeing my peers crop up in the comments of various posts — it’s one of my favourite parts of Lemmy being federated (db0 is another example of an instance that has such a distinctive vibe that seeing it as someone’s instance is often useful metadata that affects how I parse their comment)
The local communities are such a great mix of uplifting and informative posts that I am sure to return.
They didn’t need you anyway.
You may underestimate user dedication. I love my instance and totally would come back after a few months away temporarily.
You got me on the communities though.
Fediverse is designed to handle servers with less than stellar reliability.
Lets see. I think a relaunch on Piefed might interest some people to come back, and most slrpnk communities are rather niche and will probably stay. /c/climate might move though.
I think the migration to Piefed would be worse. Piefed is great, but needs better App support for Lemmy users to migrate. A merge of the Thunder fork into main Thunder would get the ball rolling.
Tag @Kris@feddit.org
On Android you can use the Interstellar app https://interstellar.jwr.one/ with piefed.social! Also iOS: https://testflight.apple.com/join/JXRtHye2
I think now that Piefed has an API for apps, we will see some of them adding support soon. Overall I think the benefits of a Piefed migration outweight the disadvantages, but it remains to be seen if it is doable.
you mean an API for bots…
Mobile Apps need an API too.
why does everything need a mobile app?
It’s not just native Apps. Alternative web UIs like Thunder, Photon and Voyager need them too.
yes, but those frontends are typically tied closer to the backend than a public API.
things like CSRF can help block abuse of the back end.
Thank you so much for the update - I hadn’t had access for about a week and was getting worried. Couldn’t reach them on XMPP either.
Yeah, the xmpp server is down too. That is something that bugs me quite a bit and I will probably move that one to an external small VPS to retain a more secure backup communication channel.
(speaking as a slrpnk user): Another backup communication strategy (once things are backup) might be to designate somewhere on a non-slrpnk instance as a place where people can check for updates if things go down; when I first discovered the outage, I wasn’t sure where to go to check for info/updates.
Unrelatedly, I hope that this unexpected outage isn’t causing you or other admins too much stress. Whilst the extended nature of this outage is unfortunate, I respect that you’re using this as an opportunity to migrate to a more robust solution. This kind of resilience focussed response is a key part of the solarpunk ethos, in my view.
Some people have said that such a long outage seems likely to kill an instance, but for my part, this community is worth waiting for — I have enjoyed having an account on this instance because it feels like the perfect blend of small enough to have a distinct culture and ethos, but is large enough to be robust and diverse.
Thanks.
Yeah at the very least this will result in some changes in the hardware setup to avoid similar situations. But of course it is impossible to forsee all possible problems.
Alt text:
Slrpnk.net is currently offline due to an unforseen hardware failure in combination with the main system-administrators having no physical access to the server location until mid July due to work or summer-holiday related travels.
We are very sorry for this unforseen down-time, but slrpnk.net will return for sure and we already have some plans for a nice relaunch, so stay tuned!
Why is this a jpg?
Because fuck blind people, that’s why
It wouldn’t be meme-worthy were it lossless.
Is this loss dot jaypeg
Just be happy that the jpg is not embedded in docx
Itself embedded in an auto extractable zip executable.
Archived once more in RAR, just for sure.
And then tar.bz2 on top so that no basic users of sidewalks can ever open it.
ikr
svg, lossless webp, or png are way better options for an image of text
JPEG XL would be the true future format, unfortunately Google killed it
Not yet they haven’t
I’ll be back when they get back up.
Assuming slrpnk stands for solar punk - that produces funny little theories in my mind about the server location.
Lol in my head it stands for slurp nick
I’m glad I’m not the only one lol
It’s clearly “slurp nook,” that nook where you can go to slurp soup as loudly as you want without being judged.
Makes most sense
Their servers are located in Portugal I believe and do indeed run on solar power! They gave details of their set up on their wiki page but… that was on the server that’s gone down so… have a read in July I guess?
it’s on archive.org
Server hosting This is a work in progress Slrpnk.net is hosted by F-hub.org, a volunteer driven and non-commercial effort to host federated community services in a resource efficient and ethical way. F-hub.org grew out of a community of open-source game developers (freegamedev.net) that has existed since the early 2000s. All the servers are operated and maintained (as a hobby) by one of the founding members and are currently located on the Azores in Portugal. Connectivity is provided through a dedicated high-speed fibreglass connection. Hardware The F-hub.org servers are based on second-hand consumer PC and data-centre hardware, but optimized for low energy consumption. Battery backup power is provided and data is stored with triple redundancy (off-site backups are still a work in progress). Electricity is currently provided by the utility grid (about 60% green-energy, mostly from a geothermal power-plant) but it is a work in progress to upgrade to a on-site solar PV system for near 100% renewable power. Slrpnk.net itself currently runs on a dedicated 6th gen Intel CPU server with 8 threads, 16GB RAM and SATA SSD storage in raid configuration. Image uploads are stored on a large HDD raid array. All data is snapshotted and transferred for backup to a second shared server on daily basis. External services Given how difficult it is to have outgoing email accepted by the large email providers, all emails are currently routed through an external SMTP server hosted by OVH in France (same as the domain registration and DNS routing). There are backup plans to move the servers to a co-location data-center owned by Altice, should this be required for scaling. However, monthly rent of rack-space is quite costly (starts at around 300€/month), thus this will require a substantial regular donation base to be possible.
I think they’re located in the Azores, and yes, running their own servers on solar (of course) and other renewable energy. Coolest instance out there.
I hope they come back :)
We will, promise! :D
Wondering if a volunteer could go to the physical location necessary to restore service. If it’s in Athens Greece, I can make the trip.
Edit: The server is located in Azores, the flight would cost 415eur, I cannot afford that, maybe someone in Portugal could help?
Is it in a data centre or someone’s house? If the latter, would they let a stranger in?
Surely they would need a backup and replicate db to so in case of hardware failure they switch over.
Sounds like they could improve their setup.
Too much of a single point of failure.
Slrpnk.net admin here.
The failure seems to have been in the main firewall, if it had been the server itself we could have easily restored it on another server from the backups on another machine. But as it stands, remote access is entirely cut off.
There usually is another person with hardware access, but they are on summer holidays. This seemed like an acceptable risk at the time…
An off-site backup would have been nice of course, but due to the costs involved in running an Lemmy instance of that size on a rented server, it would have not been a great option either.
I have plans to add a KVM to the main firewall via a secondary connection, but even that might have not helped in this case. I’ll know more when I have physical access again.
Appreciate the answer and the detail. Good luck getting it all resolved.
I’ve done a lot of SysAdmin and DCOps stuff in the past so, thought I’d give you some plausible suggestions (haven’t dug deep into Lemmy DB stuff and DNS/Federation of the stack, so not sure all is practical).
Scenario 1 - Preserve and merge when access is restored
Setup
- Spin up two VMs/VPS (or one that has enough grunt for two Lemmy servers). Call them
robak.slrpnk.net
andslrpnk.net
and point DNS appropriately. - Pull federated content from other instances and place it on robak, set as read-only.
- Sync important comms to (new) slrpnk.net without content.
- Allow users to sign up, vetting as possible (all mods). Keep a list of those that are vetted (call it vetted.list). Inform all users that any non-vetted users will have their content dropped when access is restored.
Merge!
- Once access is restored, ensure that (old) slrpnk.net is set to read-only.
- Schedule a maintenance window (announce more time than you are likely to need).
- During the maintenance window, put (new) slrpnk.net into R/O, or just block external access.
- Query the db on (old) slrpnk.net for all users.
- Subtract the vetted users from vetted.list from the list.
- Drop all records from the resulting list of non-vetted users from (new) slrpnk.net.
- Insert the records from vetted and new users (those without conflicts) into the DB on (old) slrpnk.net.
- Validate that everything is working
- Cut over DNS and spin down the new VMs/VPS.
Scenario 2 - Server is in DC or Admin able to facilitate access
- Get a db dump/backup.
- Spin up temporary slrpnk.net on a VM/VPS.
- Use backup of temporary server to restore data to original, when possible.
- Spin up two VMs/VPS (or one that has enough grunt for two Lemmy servers). Call them
Probably quite expensive, and when doing something as a hobby it’s often hard to get the funds.
Off topic, but in Portugal was the first time me, a Central European, ever ate a ripe Papaya. Yum! Thanks to the Azores. The shit you get in the supermarkets round here is useless. Same for mangoes, usually.
You are in luck then, because both are climacteric fruits, meaning they continue to ripe after being harvested, due to producing ethylene gas that triggers the ripening
Throw them in a paper bag and let them rest at room temp. If you want to speed up the process, add a ripe banana or apple (or other ripe climacteric fruits)
The taste just isn’t the same.
You might have eaten a different cultivar than those exported. In that case, I agree, there are so many different varieties that we never get to taste, supermarkets usually only have 1 or 2 different types
It’s baffling to me how customisable some fruit features can be. I know someone who works in plant genomics and cultivation and it’s really cool how they can use genomic analysis alongside selective breeding to select for traits. I imagine that imported papayas are cultivars that are easier to transport internationally.