It’s called Premium Family, not Premium Household for fuck’s sake.
I’m willing to bet my left nut that they will rename it as such in the future.
Ahh classic, punishing paying costumers while pirates don’t have to deal with any of this shit. I guess the beatings will continue until profits increase!
punishing paying costumers
Time to dress up as a pirate I guess.
Meanwhile on Steam my “family” consists of 3 adults with different addresses, last names, and credit cards, who have had accounts for decades and never lived at the same place.
We have full access to each other’s library.
Gabe Newell is 62 years old. Gonna enjoy this gravy train while we can…
Man I hope he lives to a 100 at least, why am I always late to the party, I learn about Limewire and it dies the next year, I get access to my sister’s Netflix account and Netflix goes to shit, I’m finally able to afford a gaming laptop and buy Steam games and now I’m too busy and tired from work to play them and Gabe is getting older. I wish I could go back in time and do things differently
Instead of wishing it was the past, imagine its the future and you want to go back to now to tell yourself something. What would that be?
I’d tell myself to start investing my money and hit the gym, but I’m unemployed right now and I know once I’m employed again finding the time in this rat race is gonna be difficult but I’m gonna start valuing my time more seriously, I’ve uninstalled doom scroll apps like Instagram and I’m working on time blocking my tasks, hopefully that pays off
Good for you! I hope you find a good job soon.
In the meantime, I recommend doing some exercise because that’s something you can completely control your progress on. If you don’t have a gym membership, body weight workouts are absolutely a thing you should check out.
My understanding is that gaben has already put an action plan in place for when the company moves on from his leadership.
From what I’ve heard of it, the people in line behind Gabe will be upholding the same values.
We should have at least another ~40 years or more of this before sometimes entitled brat inherits the company and sells it off to a foreign interest.
With all that being said: long live gaben.
With all that being said: long live gaben.
I like Steam, I like that they aren’t being dicks and treat users well.
That said: billionaires are not your friend.
There is no such thing as an ethical billionaire.I didn’t say there was.
I just want this specific billionaire to continue to live because, unlike most billionaires, he’s not making my life more difficult.
He’s basically refused to let steam become enshittified. Other billionaires would have long ago succumb to the one that they serve, the almighty dollar, and done whatever they can to extract the most value from their user base. Enshittifying the platform in the process, and actively making my life worse.
So as far as I’m concerned, when it comes to billionaires, gaben is far from the worst.
I have a short list of billionaires that kinda fit into the category of: I don’t mind that they exist.
There’s a much longer list of billionaires that I’d like to see pushing up the daisies.
Not that I can, or would, do anything to make that happen. I just, wouldn’t hate it if it happened.
Fair enough. It isn’t that they’re better, it’s just that they’re less worse.
I would say, they’re not necessarily good, just less bad.
Same idea though.
Gaben is gonna be the first person to digitally upload their consciousness.
While steam has historically been “good”, doesn’t mean it’ll stay that way…
Sure, the 2 constants in the universe are Entropy and Enshitification. When Steam turns to shit I’ll go back to Piracy just like I did when Netflix went to shit.
My point is that companies don’t have to be shit about account sharing and family plans, and people don’t have to accept it.
It’s mostly that a feature on it went from “okayish” to “far more consumer-friendly”, which was incredibly unexpected of them to do. Everyone figured Steam library sharing would die but instead they roll out Family that has far looser restrictions than the system they’d had for over a decade.
Can’t play the same game at the same time unless both own it, and DLC isn’t shared, but my partner being able to play anything I own that I’m not playing is pretty rad of a positive change.
Meanwhile Nintendo’s system got worse instead.
Didn’t know steam even had a family option, it’s good to know
It’s pretty fantastic! In the past, you could share a library, and playing any game from that library would lock the entire library so others couldn’t use it at the same time. Today, that is loosened up and is much nicer to use.
How do you add new people? I tried and a prompt told me that we don’t seem to share a household.
I had that error a couple of times, and it inexplicably resolved itself. Try having the person join again (which may require a new invite). I think only 1 out of 4 members of my family were able to join without that initial error message. This was back when Steam had just switched how they handled family sharing, so I assumed it was just an implementation bug of some sort. One of my friends took three attempts before they could join, but it worked ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Though I will note that steam family sharing no longer works if the person is located in another country for the purposes of Steam billing region (so my Norwegian friend could not join my UK family)
Login on their PC or let them login on yours
That’s the old way of handling it. (And I think it still works.) They have a new implementation that’s just the family group admin sending an invite and the recipient accepting.
Which only works If you were in the same Network atleast for me
After I made my comment I saw someone else make a comment about getting a message saying that. I never did. Mine just worked. Weird.
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If one changes their password afterwards, will the share persist? Old Steam family sharing broke after changing the passwords.
Should still work. Not 100% sure tbh
Google really seems to want to disincentivize people paying for YouTube Premium rather than just downloading an ad blocker.
Yea. I mean, I pay for it right now because it’s easy and works on all my stuff but frankly they’re really making me weigh how much convenience really matters. This kinda behaviour’s pretty garbo.
Firefox + ublock origin still works to block all YouTube ads
Invidious is a frontend for YouTube that blocks all their trackers and ads
PeerTube is an alternative community ran platform to replace YouTube in the future
I really wanted to like and use Peertube more, but it’s so devoid of any content aside from political podcasts, as far as I can tell. I can’t tell if the search function is bad, or I’m using it wrong, or there really is just that little content. Any recommendations for Peertube content?
ff+ubo+privacy badger (ff on my distro suggested privacy badger, can’t remember exact number but when ubo blocks over ~1k privacy badger has like 2 - 4 on it, surprising me a little there are not more trackers) on pc, my phone has no adblocking atm and I know their info on me is wrong because all I do see are gambling ads and I have never gone to a gambling site, I don’t even get the scam game ads my gf does on her phone. One day I may try out one of the “delete my dam info” places just to see how much they really have on me
Just use Firefox Mobile to watch YouTube.
Ad blocking through uBO and can enable playing with locked screen.
I keep trying to convert my friends to using Firefox mobile for this reason. I generally try not to evangelise too much, but I have so many friends who keep complaining about ads when browsing the internet on mobile, and this would literally solve their problem. One friend complained about ads so frequently that they ended up getting irked at me telling them the problem was solvable. Our unhappy compromise was that I would stop telling them to use Firefox and uBO if they stopped complaining about this so much in front of me.
I respect their choices, but by God, I’m baffled by them. I get that inertia makes it hard to make switches like this, but when you’re spending so much time complaining about how much effort it takes to use the internet on your mobile, why would you not just solve the problem?
I had someone say “Well, yours doesn’t do ads” and, in the year of 5 manufacturers pumping out 10 different SKUs a year, we had the same model phone.
I said “Yours doesn’t have to, if you set it up that way.”
The answer? “Well, c’mon, play the video.”
Like, yeah, let’s just brush past the… What? Five or six tap solution? And before anyone asks, not a romantic opening. Generally people don’t make passes at bridge trolls who evangelize for open source software.
Running personalDNSFilter (whole phone, non-root adblocker) blocks ads just fine for me in the official unmodified Youtube app.
Just use Firefox Mobile
to watch YouTube.There we go, fixed it for you
Chrome + Ublock Origin Lite also still works, fyi.
Invidious sadly doesn’t allow for an account and subscriptions, at least not without running your own server which appears… complex.
That part is working now
I can load in my subscriptions.csv file from youtube into my subscriptions list on my Invidious account.
And that all works through a web browser
Youtube can suck a peener. I will pirate whole channels if they keep fuckin’ up.
How? All the tools I looked up don’t work anymore
yt-dlp. You’ll need to either learn some light command line, or just look up what you’re trying to do ie scraping an entire playlist Etc
I love that program
It also works with other stuff besides YouTube. You can download porn with it with
yt-dlp https://xvideos.com/insert-porn-video-123
As someone with divorced parents this invalidates what I call a “family”. Same to you… Netflix
Gotta give it to them. They are extremely innovative in coming up with ways of enshitifying stuff.
I absolutely hate this stuff. My family doesn’t live in the same house, but it doesn’t mean we are not a family. My mother-in-law and sister-in-law just message us for the passwords when they want to stream something. None of us pay for youtube premium and it looks like I won’t be.
Why pay for premium anyway? Let alone a family plan. You still get ads. They can be skipped too — SponsorBlock will do it for free. Google could use this but chooses not to.
They want YouTube to be like cable TV. You pay for it. You watch ads. You pay more for premium channels.
I pay for it. No ads. Background playing on mobile, and YouTube music included.
Background playing on mobile
The fact that they put this behind a paywall is enough for me to never pay them a dime.
I found a neat little workaround that I used for a while. I’d load the video up in my browser, turn the phone on an off a couple times, press play on the lock screen, and enjoy it that way.
Edit:
Still works. Just gotta full screen the video and then power off before it kills picture in picture.
And now I’m listening in the background as I type this.
I found a little workaround called Newpipe.
I’ll check it out. Thank you.
I use NewPipe on my phone (and FreeTube on my laptop)
Most certainly off-topic, but I have found other cool workarounds for apps.
For instance, if you open 2 windows of, say, PowerPoint (1 you want to use, the other you must close after; read below). Then, go to the one you don’t want to use (or at least one you use for this method), and wait for the no account/Office not bought/whatever pop up; in any case, do NOT close the pop up. Open the other PowerPoint, and then close the former. If done right, you’ll be pleasantly surprised that it works perfectly! After that, you can open any additional ppt files. Do note that, after you close PowerPoint entirely, you gotta do this all over again.
@interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml gave me a really good suggestion the other day. If youre on Firefox, it might work for you too :)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-background-play-fix/
I just have the video running on Firefox and can them go to another App / turn off the screen
That’s fair
It used to just work. Then it only worked with a funny work around. Now I don’t care because I pirate their content instead.
I’m in a family plan, so when this change hits, going to have to find alternative methods.
I do too but the value is waning. When I try to watch without having logged in and see all the ads, that add some value back
In what scenario are you watching it without being logged in?
Go to a family member’s house and try to show them something on YT.
Cringe in horror at the experience.
I am aware of how bad logged out YouTube is, that’s why don’t do it lol.
Not the person you asked, but I do that sometimes. For instance, when I want to watch a specific video but I don’t want having watched it to affect other video recommendations.
Incognito window =)
That’s how it’s done, yep.
I don’t know if this actually does what I hope it does, but if I happen to watch a video that I don’t want recommendations on in the future, I manually delete the video from my watch history.
I don’t know if that really helps, but at least as a placebo it feels good to do.
If unsure of a video, 1. on desktop open in new tab - if ya don’t want that content/creator click the 3 dots on the main page video and select don’t suggest channel, on phone (just did this a few mins ago) back out of video and since on mobile the home feed doesn’t reset hit the 3 dots etc
I stopped watching YouTube logged in after getting FreeTube on my laptop.
So you’re using SponsorBlock as well, or you’re watching videos without sponsors.
In-video sponsors are not even remotely the same thing as the ads YouTube puts on videos, but that being said no I’m not using SponsorBlock. YouTube premium has a button to skip in-video sponsors so I don’t need sponsor block.
I dont pay for it, use grayjay or firefox with ad block, I have no ads, background playing on mobile and I could care less about YouTube music.
I just pirate it
Pirate… what?
Videos from YouTube
How does one pirate free videos? Is there somebody uploading torrents of YouTube videos?
How have you never heard of yt-dlp?
Yt-dlp doesn’t pirate YouTube videos… it downloads them directly from YouTube.
when all the videos get put behind login walls and drm, perhaps someone will.
NewPipe does this for free
I don’t have an android
I pay for it, also no ads except the sponsor plugs, which are pretty easy to skip. Overall a better experience than the non premium. I don’t live in the USA so my cost is like $5/month.
The three people who replied before you said they don’t get the sponsor plugs.
When I had YTP (I had a trial, it was like 3 months for $1), I got the sponsored segments. So either those other people are lying, or they don’t understand what I’m saying.
YouTube is my only subscription.
I use it for Music and Video. I definitely get my money’s worth, they’re streaming to me at least 8 hours a day.
If it’s not background music, it’s videos. I can’t even fathom how many hours of ads I have avoided.
same here, but even I’m looking to cancel both to avoid supporting a US company and because they’re making my experience worse by having a shitty user experience
I’ve never seen a single youtube ad with uBlock Origin. SponsorBlock takes care of most of the sponsored segments that a premium youtube account won’t get rid of.
You don’t get ads. You pay less than double what two premiums cost and your household can share.
I have YouTube premium and have not gotten any ads.
YouTube is fucking garbage.
I don’t care about the ads because it’s fucking garbage, and why would I watch garbage?
I pay for premium because currently it’s the easier option for getting no Ads on all my devices. Yes I could install a third party client on my TV, Phone & use uBlock on Desktop, but two of those require active upkeep.
- YouTube Music is included.
For sponsorships, YouTube Premium has the “Skip Ahead” feature which basically leeches off sponsorblock users where commonly skipped sections can be also skipped by you.
It’s just currently easier to pay than to pirate. I will say however, if it gets too shitty, I will resort back to pirating.
I guess we going back to blocking ads
i never stopped, fuck these vultures - idc how many fake ass american dream-pilled carrots they wave in our faces. always fuck them.
For those select few that have an iPhone
You have a few options:
- be EU citizen and sideload a cracked YouTube (similar to vanced, but you need certificates on iOS which sucks)
- pay for a dev account and sideload regardless of above
- buy two apps: vinegar and AdGuard. AdGuard speaks for itself, vinegar is a tool that forces YouTube to use the html 5 player inside of safari and thus forcing it to your will
I know iPhones are hated here, but I saw the android will stop sideloading coming from a mile away. At least here in the eu apple can suck one and I can still sideload whatever I want
I just use Brave on iOS. It works fine for YouTube.
you need certificates on iOS which suck
I can still sideload whatever I want
??
ergo, there are extra steps, which is a pita, but not insurmountable.
I got certificates
You can sideload up to three apps without a paid dev account, they just expire in 7 days. Use something like AltStore (or better yet SideStore) and you have an easy way to install and re-sign two other apps. They also have the ability to essentially “offload” apps so you can have more than two other sideloaded apps, but only two can be active at a time (other than the signing app)
Yeah or services as Signulous could take a bit of strain away if you don’t want to be limited by the 7 days and 3 apps limit
Vinegar seems awesome. Thanks! Also, the dev’s other apps are pretty amazing too!
Thanks! Will look into the other apps too!
This will be like Netflix pushing against shared accounts, sure it will work and their revenue will go up, but I will stop being a paying customer and will only watch videos from my notebook with adblocks.
I cancelled Netflix when they did the sharing bullshit and I cancelled prime when they wanted MORE money to not give me ads. Fuck that.
However, you and I seem to be in the minority since these mega corps push one bullshit after another and people just bend over and go “please use lube this time…”
Good thing I am never going to go youtube premium.
I think that’s the point.
They’ve had such trouble even selling YouTube premium that now they’re making it even less worthwhile, and expecting people to still buy it…
I don’t know what companies don’t get. Family means so many different things and they’re trying to dictate and control what it means to be a family. They don’t get to decide that. Many people I consider to be family, have zero blood relation to me, but they’ve stood by me like brothers and sisters when shit goes down, often staying to help long after my blood relatives, have abandoned me. The people I share a bloodline with are simply not as much of a family to me as these people I grew up with, and have stuck with me through thick and thin.
If I buy a “family” plan of anything, I expect that the family I’ve chosen can be among the people I can share that plan with. If I’m paying for a personal plan and sharing it with others, I get it, fair game. But if I’m specifically buying it because I can share it with family, then let me share it with family, or fuck the fuck off with that bullshit.
Sorry, bit of a rant, I know everyone here already knows this so I’m preaching to the choir.
Be well.
Fuck em. We try to pay even tho we know how to get it for free. Go back to ad blockers.
Not a perfect experience but it’s better than putting up with that corporate bullshit.
